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WDL Discussion / Happy new Year!
« Last post by Ghostkiller on January 01, 2021, 05:50:10 AM »
Whether it be that you are entirely new to Doom 2, or simply newer to Odamex and the World Doom League model, having an understanding of how the league functions is critical if you wish to get a shot at a spot on one of the many WDL teams each season. So here are some basic aspects of the league followed up by some tips that can help you set a clear goal on how to get noticed as a player for each coming up season:

1.) The amount of teams each season aren't set in stone, so private CTF matters!
  • While each season may see a variance in teams, one thing is always consistent about competitive doom 2 ctf no matter the port, era, or league: private CTF sessions is where you hone your craft and get noticed.
  • First of all, what are private CTF sessions? They are sessions where we join password protected servers running the latest compilation wad of competitive community-made CTF maps and do what is essentially pick-up capture the flag - think like pick-up basketball games. Except here, we have structure. Two captains are selected at random, and they proceed to draft accordingly by the players who have ready'd up. Many players go out of their way to try and include all players so the same 4-6 players aren't hogging the spotlight, but if for whatever reason those same 4-6 are dominating, do not be afraid to speak up and say you'd like to get in a game.
  • Secondly, joining the WDL discord (where you'll need to be approved by an administrator) is the best place to start in order to find these matches. You can join here: This is where people will highlight all the players in the WDL channel to start up a private CTF session. The times can vary, but generally they will happen at random so make sure you're settings allow you to be highlighted! While private CTF tends to happen more around the start-up of each season, getting to know the players that currently populate the WDL community is still a good thing. Moreover, many people look to maintain their form in the off-season, so even messaging people for duels is a great way to get noticed.

2.) The WDL draft is usually announced a few weeks ahead of time, so this is the most crucial time to get meaningful reps in and get your name out there to captains
  • What this means is that you'll want to pay attention to who the captains are. Captains will be announced around this same time, if not at the same time. Knowing who you really want to show out for is important.
  • Even if you don't get drafted, that doesn't not mean you still won't get a shot. Plenty of teams cut players each season for a variety of reasons. Moreover, teams are always looking to practice so even if you don't get picked up, being available to help teams practice is still a great way to get your name out there. It's also a great way to get familiar with the competitive 3v3 structure that the WDL uses, and simply put, to improve - more on that next.

3.) There are no set number of seasons: some years could have 1 season, others maybe 2 or 3. It just depends. Stay up to date in WDL discord!

4.) All the tips mentioned above are great: but the most important thing is developing your skills as a player! Learning about yourself is the most important of all.[u/]
  • This means that you need to identify your strengths and weaknesses as a player. How well do you aim? Should you work on that? Is your movement as clean and crisp as possible? Are you able to cleanly sr40, sr50? Can you maneuver around most maps without bumping into walls? Is your reaction time spot on? These are all questions you need to analyze about your own gameplay as you're practicing. There is no one correct question to ask, but generally when you play against someone and they beat you, it is pretty straight forward to understand where they're having success at and where you are not. Start there.
  • The same aforementioned questions and concepts apply to CTF, but these questions tend to be a little bit simpler. For example, if you're someone that has strong stand-still aim with some quick reaction time, being a defender is probably a good place to start. If your more movement based and deceiving as a player, maybe starting off as a runner is ideal. Floating and doing a bit of everything tends to liken itself to mid-players. All of these positions tend to be arbitrary though, they are descriptions we use to simplify CTF roles. Even though we tend to have static positions overall, good players and teams will often deviate in order to apply the most optimal gameplay. Don't get caught up in this right away, starting off with a simple preferred position is ideal in order to really take your game to the next level. If you continue to play with good players, you'll learn all the nuances of CTF along the way.
5.) Lastly, do not be afraid to ask for help. The WDL discord and competitive doom community is full of helpful and competent players. Many of us want to build you up, not break you down.
  • The WDL discord is not the only place to get a game of doom in. Other ports have competitive players, and while the doom ports have some drastic differences, many of the same philosophies of the game itself transfer over relatively cleanly so long as we aren't venturing off into far more newer doom physics and mechanics. You can go to the discords below to find players (and you'll often see many of the same players in each all of these discords)
  • Multiplayer Doom Federation Discord:
  • Odamex Discord (you must request for an invite be sent to you)
  • ZDaemon Discord (you must request for an invite to be sent to you)
  • There are more than the aforementioned, again, just ask around!

Good luck doomers, may your experience be eternal!
WDL Discussion / IDL and WDL History by Season Megathread
« Last post by HateDaddy on December 22, 2020, 09:57:10 PM »
Hi all,

I am attempting to piece together as much history as I can for the old International Doom League and currently World Doom League. Fortunately, since the WDL has been maintained by Ralph and co. since its inception, its history is not scattered all over the place - or simply flat out erased. Sadly, most of the history in terms of websites is practically gone. You can find bits and pieces with the Wayback machine, but its like pulling teeth to get even a screenshot.

So what do we do? As of now, I have the majority of the demos from the IDL on both the ZD and Odamex era. The only thing I am writing up right now are matches that include the following: the teams, the captain of each team, the scores, and the records. Some information will be incomplete for a multitude of reasons, which is why I am  coming here. I only fully participated in 4 full seasons, while also making partial appearances in 3 others during the IDL's seasons. There is simply a vast amount of information I do not know, so I'm hoping that people can contribute to this thread so we can put together as much information as possible. I'll post below my team's performances over the years and what they ultimately accomplished, so if anyone else would like to add all you need do is post.

Here are the results below:

ZDaemon Era

Season 1

Season 2

Season 3

Season 4

Season 5

Season 6

Season 7

Season 8

Season 9

  • Electric Bills (EBL)(#4 Seed IDC; L Wildcard); 3-5-2

    Team: HateDaddy (C), Ru5tK1ng, Higgs, Roscoe; Metalhead (withdrawn)
    Record 3-5-2 (L IDC Wildcard Round vs SUC 2-3[OT2*])

    Week 1 [HateDaddy (C), Ru5tK1ng, Higgs] vs Berserker Packers [Jenova (C), DevastatioN, RottKing] (BSK):L 0-2
    ZDCTF Map07; Overall 0-1

    Round 1: BSK 3-0
    Round 2: BSK 3-4

    Week 2 [HateDaddy (C), Ru5tK1ng, Higgs] vs Killingbrowns [Tai (C), Whiteboy567, MadV] (KGB):W 2-1;
    ZDU Map30; Overall 1-1

    Round 1: KGB 5-2
    Round 2: EBL 5-0
    Round 3: EBL 3-0

    Week 3 [HateDaddy (C), Ru5tK1ng, Higgs] vs Techno Vikings [Russiandumbass (C), Nostar, turSKA] (TKV):T 1-1-1 
    ZDECTF-2 Map19; Overall 1-1-1

    Round 1: TKV 5-3
    Round 2: EBL 5-4 (HateDaddy scores as time runs out)
    Round 3: Tie 3-3

    Week 4 [HateDaddy (C), Ru5tK1ng, Higgs] vs DoomRaiders [Goatface (C) *DNP, Climhazzard, Sabertooth, Midian]
    (DMR):W 2-1 Thirty4 Map16; Overall 2-1-1

    Round 1: EBL 5-0
    Round 2: DMR 5-1
    Round 3: EBL 2-1

    Week 5 [HateDaddy (C), Ru5tK1ng, Higgs] vs BrokeBack Cowboys [Stallion (C), LordBritish, Xenaero] (BBC):L 1-2;
    Thirty4 Map31; Overall 2-2-1

    Round 1: EBL 5-3
    Round 2: BBC 5-0
    Round 3: BBC 4-1

    Week 6 [HateDaddy (C), Ru5tK1ng, Higgs] vs SuperChargers [Ralphis (C), Gilgamesh, Joshsmith] (SUC):L 0-2;
    ZDECTF-02 Map01; Overall 2-3-1

    Round 1: SUC 3-2
    Round 2: SUC 5-0

    Week 7 [HateDaddy(C), Ru5tK1ng, Higgs] vs Demonic Cults [Caboose (C) *DNP, Beast, Caution, Aerial] (DMC):W 2-0;
    Chaoscore Map11; Overall 3-3-1

    Round 1: EBL 4-0
    Round 2: EBL 5-0 

    Week 8 [HateDaddy(C), Ru5tK1ng, Higgs] vs Techno Vikings [Russiandumbass (C), Nostar, Dr_noob, turSKA *DNP]
    (TKV):L 1-2 Thirty4 Map17; Overall 3-4-1

    Round 1: TKV 5-2
    Round 2: TKV 2-1

    Week 9 [HateDaddy(C), Ru5tK1ng, Higgs] vs Killingbrowns [Tai (C), Whiteboy567, MadV] (KGB):T 1-1-1
    ZDCTF Map08; Overall 3-4-2

    Round 1: KGB 2-1
    Round 2: EBL 4-1
    Round 3: TIE 0-0


    International Doom Conference Wildcard Round:

    (4)Electric Bills [HateDaddy (c), Ru5tK1ng, Higgs, Roscoe] (EBL) v.s (1)SuperChargers [Ralphis (C), Gilgamesh, Joshsmith, ???] (SUC)

    Chaoscore Map11

    SUC 3 < EBL 2 Final (OT2)

    Round 1: SUC 2-1
    Round 2: EBL 3-1
    Round 3: Tie 3-3
    Round 4 (OT1): Tie 3-3 (Ru5tK1ng scores as time runs out)
    Round 5 (OT2): SUC 5-2

Season 10

  • Electric Bills (EBL)(Did Not Qualify for Postseason Play); 2-6-1

    Team: HateDaddy (C), Mobius, Mando, Roscoe; Mantis-X (Traded week 4), Sabertooth (Traded week 5)
    Dr_Noob (dropped week 8)
    Record: 2-6-1 (Did not qualify for postseason play)

    Week 1 [HateDaddy (C), Mantis-X, Mobius] v.s. Doom Raiders [LordBritish (C), Nostar, Collision]
    (DMR):L 0-2-1; ZDCTF Map26; Overall 0-1

    Round 1: DMR 5-2
    Round 2: TIE 0-0
    Round 3: DMR 2-0

    Week 2 [HateDaddy (C), Mantis-X, Mobius] v.s. Techno Vikings [RussianDumbass (C), turSKA, Caution] (TKV):L 2-1;
    Chaoscore Map11; Overall 0-2

    Round 1: EBL 5-3
    Round 2: TKV 5-1
    Round 3: TKV 5-1

    Week 3 [HateDaddy (C), Mantis-X, Mobius] v.s. Killingbrowns [Tai, Bloodstrike, Junior] (KGB):L 1-2;
    ZDCTF Map01; Overall 0-3

    Round 1: EBL 5-0
    Round 2: KGB 5-2
    Round 3: KGB 5-4

    Week 4 [HateDaddy (C), Sabertooth, Mobius] v.s. Flag Stealers [Legion (C), Chewy, Goatface] (FLS):L 0-2;
    Thirty7 Map22; Overall 0-4

    Round 1: FLS 5-1
    Round 2: FLS 3-1

    Week 5 [HateDaddy (C), Mobius, Dr_Noob] v.s. SuperChargers [Ralphis (C), Ru5tK1ng, Xenaero] (SUC): L 0-2;
    Chaoscore Map01; Overall 0-5

    Round 1: SUC 5-2
    Round 2: SUC 5-0

    Week 6 [HateDaddy (C), Mobius, Dr_Noob] v.s. Techno Vikings [RussianDumbass (C), Caution, turSKA,] (TKV):L 0-2
    ZDU Map10; Overall 0-6

    Round 1: TKV 4-0
    Round 2: TKV 2-1

    Week 7 [HateDaddy (C), Mobius, Dr_Noob]  v.s. Spread Eagles [MassVC (C), mikehail, Sabertooth] (SPE):W 2-0;
    ZDCTF Map15; Overall 1-6

    Round 1: EBL 3-0
    Round 2: EBL 2-0

    Week 8 [HateDaddy (C), Mobius, Mando{FA-Pick Up}] v.s . Demonic Colts [Doomguy666 (C), Lt. Dan, Dewww] (DMC):
    W 2-0;
    ZDCTF Map18: Overall 2-6

    Round 1: EBL 5-3
    Round 2: EBL 5-4

    Week 9 [HateDaddy (C), Mobius, Mando] v.s. Killingbrowns [Tai (C), Dawson, Junior, Bloodstrike] (KGB):T 1-1-1
    ZDECTF2 Map01; Overall 2-6-1

    Round 1: EBL 3-1 (Bloodstrike benched)
    Round 2: TIE 1-1 (Junior benched)
    Round 3: KGB 3-1 (Junior benched)

Season 11

  • Super Shotgun Spurs *sgs* (#1 Seed IDC; W Masterbowl XI); 8-0-1

    Team: HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike, Killforce
    Record 11-0-1 (W MasterBowl XI vs BBC 2-0)

    Week 1 [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike] v.s. We're All Doomed [Nostar (C), Chaindude, Shakal, Fastidious]
    (.wad):W 2-0-1; ZDECTF2 Map19; Overall 1-0

    Round 1: SGS 3-2
    Round 2: TIE 4-4 (Shakal benched; Fastidious subs)
    Round 3: SGS 4-3 (Fastidious remains in)

    Week 2 [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike] v.s. Killingbrowns [Tai (C), Killingblair, Junior ] (KGB):W 2-0;
    SmartCTF Map01; Overall 2-0

    Round 1: SGS 4-0
    Round 2: SGS 5-0

    Week 3 [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike] v.s. Plasma Dicks United [Russiandumbass (C), Ladna, turSKA] (PDU):
    W 2-0; Chaoscore Map01; Overall 3-0

    Round 1: SGS 5-0
    Round 2: SGS 5-1

    Week 4 [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike] v.s. KNortic Fnord [Strangle (C), Whiteboy567, Legion ] (KNF):W 2-0-1;
    IDLCONTEST Map20; Overall 4-0

    Round 1: TIE 4-4
    Round 2: SGS 5-2
    Round 3: SGS 5-2

    Week 5 [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike] v.s. SuperChargers [Ralphis (C), Oath, Climhazzard] (SUC):T 0-0;
    ZDCTF Map08; Overall 4-0-1

    Round 1: TIE 0-0
    Round 2: TIE 1-1
    Round 3: TIE 1-1

    Week 6 [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstike] v.s. Plasma Dicks United [Russiandumbass (C), Ladna, Cecil, turSKA DNP*]: (PDU):
    w 2-0; ZDCTF Map02; Overall 5-0-1

    Round 1: SGS 5-1
    Round 2: SGS 5-0

    Week 7 [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike] v.s. Mass Destruction [Doomguy666 (C), Xyltol, Xenaro] (M.D):W 2-0;
    Thirty4 Map16; Overall 6-0-1

    Round 1: SGS 5-0
    Round 2: SGS 5-0

    Week 8 [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike] v.s. Philothranpic Blowhards [LordBritish (C), Armour, Edd) (PBH):
    W 2-0 (Forfeit): Overall 7-0-1

    Week 9 [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike] v.s. Killingbrowns [Tai (C), Killingblair, Junior] (KGB):W 2-0;
    ZDUCTF Map34; Overall 8-0-1

    Round 1: SGS 5-1
    Round 2: SGS 5-1


    International Doom Conference Wildcard Round:

    (4)Killingbrowns [Tai (C), Killingblair, Junior, ???] (KGB) v.s. (1)Super Shotgun Spurs [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike, Killforce] *sgs*

    ZDECTF02 Map01 Cold Sweats

    *sgs* 2 < KGB 0

    Round 1: SGS 5-0
    Round 2: SGS 3-1

    International Doom Conference Championship Game:

    (2)We're All Doomed [Nostar (C), Chaindude, Shakal, Fastidious] .wad v.s. (1)Super Shotgun Spurs [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike, Killforce] *sgs*

    ZDECTF01 Map01 Cold Sweats

    *sgs* 2 < .wad 0

    Round 1: SGS 5-0
    Round 2: SGS 4-2

    Masterbowl XI

    (WDC)Brokeback Cowboys [ThatsJustPrime (C), Mantis-X, OurHero *DNP, Armour] (BBC) v.s. (IDC)Super Shotgun Spurs [HateDaddy (C), Stallion, Bloodstrike, Killforce] *sgs*

    ZDCTF Map16 Return to Phobos

    *sgs* 2 < BBC 0

    Round 1: SGS 3-0
    Round 2: SGS 4-0

Odamex Era

Season 12

Season 13

4 News / Summer 2020 WDL Champions - Best Ever
« Last post by Ralphis on August 11, 2020, 05:29:44 PM »
Congratulations to the new WDL Champions, Best Ever (RoSK1ng, Acc, Skullrush, TMD) on their hard fought 5-round victory over Tai's Only Fans in the DemonSphere Championship Classic X! The game has been considered one of the most exciting playoff games of all time. This is RoSK1ng's 2nd consecutive championship as a captain and first WDL title for Acc, Skullrush, and TMD. Full coverage of the game can be replayed below:

« Last post by Zakken on August 03, 2020, 03:18:45 PM »
Should be an exciting match
« Last post by Ralphis on August 02, 2020, 01:57:10 PM »
WDL Summer 2020
#3 Tai's Only Fans [TOF] (MAP08) @ #1 Best Ever [BST] (MAP14) - Gametime: Sun, Aug 9 @ 2:00PM EDT
August 3rd - August 9th

(#3) Tai's Only Fans [TOF]
Tai, Dastan, Edd, Galactus
MAP08: Something Epic (ZDCTF08)
[BST] Best Ever (#1)
RoSKing, Acc, Skullrush, TMD
MAP14: Mephitic Waste (CORE26)
WDL Summer 2020 / WEEK 7 - PLAYOFF SEMI FINALS [JUL 27 - AUG 2] Discussion
« Last post by -Alpha- on July 28, 2020, 02:01:52 PM »
July 27th - August 2nd

(#4) Sexual Panthers [SXP]
Humanbones, Dragon, Tobi, ShadowStalker
MAP11: Toxic Refineres II (CORE29)
[BST] Best Ever (#1)
RoSKing, Acc, Skullrush, TMD
MAP14: Mephitic Waste (CORE26)

(#7) Super Chargers [SUC]
Ralphis, KBlair, ThatsJustPrime, Souler
MAP03: Something Average (RALPH01)
[TOF] Tai's Only Fans (#3)
Tai, Dastan, Edd, Galactus
MAP08: Something Epic (ZDCTF08)
10 News / Summer 2020 Semi-Finals Matchups/Times
« Last post by HumanBones on July 27, 2020, 07:42:05 PM »
WDL Summer 2020
#4 Sexual Panthers [SXP] (MAP11) @ #1 Best Ever [BST] (MAP14) - Gametime: Sun, Aug 2 @ 2:00PM EDT
#7 Super Chargers [SUC] (MAP03) @ #3 Tai's Only Fans [TOF] (MAP08) - Gametime: Sun, Aug 2 @ 5:00PM EDT
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